Your link has been automatically embedded. : He was really gobby, and one of our lot gave him a hiding. took all reasonable precautions in accordance with the requirements of FA Rule 31(A)(II)." Includes initial monthly payment and selected options. The programme, called 'F-Troop, Treatment and the Half-way Line,' after the three mobs that roamed The Den, introduced such characters as Harry The Dog, Mad Pat and Bobby The Wolf to the wider. To calculate the overall star rating and percentage breakdown by star, we dont use a simple average. The crowds on the bank having caught the fever, free fights were plentiful. To learn more about how and for what purposes Amazon uses personal information (such as Amazon Store order history), please visit our Privacy Notice. There was an error retrieving your Wish Lists. Football Hooligan, And the Leeds United Service Crews Top Boy. The call for unity was framed in a strange way. Long story, but in Oct 1974, 7 of us got ambushed by him & his mob on the top deck of a bus. We use cookies and similar tools that are necessary to enable you to make purchases, to enhance your shopping experiences and to provide our services, as detailed in our Cookie Notice. : Discover more of the authors books, see similar authors, read author blogs and more. What do these books have in common? Brentford's goalkeeper Chic Brodie picked it up, inspected it and threw it into his goal. [2][3] On five occasions The Den was closed by the Football Association and the club has received numerous fines for crowd disorder. There was an error retrieving your Wish Lists. [citation needed] A local newspaper, East Ham Echo, reported that, "From the very first kick of the ball it was seen likely to be some trouble, but the storm burst when Dean and Jarvis came into collision (Millwall had two players sent off during the match). If they dont go down ill stick my cock in a blender", Watching it, villa woeful first half, all over Newcastle so far in 2nd, If it stays like this, lambert can't be there too much longer. Many fans blame the scheme for diminishing Millwall's away support, such as at Leeds United where fans are issued with vouchers which are then exchanged for tickets at a designated point of West Yorkshire Police's choosing on the day of the game. I hear this all the time from Spurs & Arsenal I just have little laugh and walk away. : Sports. [23], In January 1988, when Millwall were knocked out of the FA Cup by Arsenal in a third round match at Highbury, 41 Millwall hooligans, were arrested after clashing with Arsenal's firm The Herd. Although he had played for eight different clubs, playing his fewest games (four) for Millwall, and was signed to Bradford City at the time, the BBC used the headline, "Former Millwall striker Gavin Grant guilty of murder". [4] Violence started before the match when Luton Town fans hurled bricks, bottles and other projectiles from the roofs of buildings at Millwall fans making their way from the train station to the stadium. An alcoholic who died in a shop doorway. The game, won 20 by Hull, was overshadowed when seats, coins and plastic bottles were thrown by some away supporters. They sing: No one likes us, we dont care. A distorted version of working-class pride has grown in south-east London that appeals to boneheaded contrarians like Rod Liddle. Something went wrong. With the patronizing, posh voice over. Saw an article a while back- he was the one in the Panorama documentary that said that if any Northern Ponce spits on him he sticks pint glasses in their eads!. Display as a link instead, This is the story of one mans rise to the very top of the hooligan fraternity, and the bloody means he took to achieve it. The lad with the big hair? Great post Mike. "I see it as unjust. The show was extremely damaging for the club. What he was doing there i've no idea, but he went home with a few bruise's!. On that night, approximately 20,000 people packed into a ground that usually only held half that number to watch Luton beat Millwall 10. Sign up for a new account in our community. After that followd chelsea all over uk in our not so great (at least on the field) days. Watched this a while ago, really good watch indeed. Remember one of his crew was a fat geezer called George Cook, who a few months later we spotted in Southend. I think it was a Panorama programme about Millwall and hooliganism where w learned of Harry the Dog. Pitch invasions resulted in another closure in 1947 and in 1950 the club was fined after a referee and linesman were ambushed outside the ground. I suppose its a tough part of London so in away I admire how they stick together. It led to a ban on away supporters by Luton from their Kenilworth Road ground for four years. Scotland Yard withdrew its threat to sue, stating: "In light of the efforts made and a donation to a charity helping injured police officers, the Metropolitan Police Service has decided not to pursue legal action against Millwall F.C. For numbers I would say the 80s but pound for pound late 70s after we had been down in the second division a couple of seasons the Millwall experience made us better organised we came back to the first prepared to go to places we had nether been before mobbed up Manchester, Liverpool etc even going into and taking other London clubs ends North Bank Arsenal Boxing Day 1977 peaking with the firm we took to Spurs in August 1978 Good days. Back to top. The message from the boardroom was clear: it was crucial that they should not be provided with any more ammunition. Third parties use cookies for their purposes of displaying and measuring personalised ads, generating audience insights, and developing and improving products. Please try again. This was on a serious newscast, probably radio 4 and they were talking about football violence. Yeah it was the pub featured in the Panorama program became a Wetherspoons a couple of years before I moved down the line understand now demolished and is a block of flats the Saxon is now Lidls, RIP billy plummer.. millwall fan was a nice fella, Sorry to hear about that he was a good laugh Billy. Yeah London has changed and grown. Sorry, there was a problem saving your cookie preferences. A gang of retired hooligans have been targeted by the BBC for a special thugs-reunited TV show. Knew the face can't remember his name was a bit older than us. I can't see him getting past tomorrow judging by tonight's show. Yeah in a way it is admirable but also sad as they're so small minded. Alex Mighten 8. The surgical mask lot always cracked me up even in those days! - Millwall FC forum from footymad.net. Please try again. British Rail Inter city trains that way we could get off any where along the route. The North Stand boys in the mid/late 70's, Gate 17 had the Bridge a reputation but it is fair to say our general support in numbers never met our away in terms of ratio to the opposition. It was later retrieved by police and determined to be a harmless dummy. Bobby the Wolf: The True Story of Britain's Most Notorious Football Hooligan, and the West Hams Intercity Firms Top Boy, This title and over 1 million more are available with. There will be plenty who deny it, but a large section of the clubs support embrace the notoriety. Reply. Funny watching Harry the Dog & co in the Tote. You are using an out of date browser. Download the free Kindle app and start reading Kindle books instantly on your smartphone, tablet or computer no Kindle device required. 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They have a prominent place in football culture that means they have a relevance that. Bobby the Wolf: The True Story of Britain's Most Notorious Football Hooligan, and the West Ham's Intercity Firm's Top Boy Paperback - 20 Feb. 2022 by EWAN RILAD (Author) 1 rating See all formats and editions Kindle Edition 0.00 This title and over 1 million more are available with Kindle Unlimited 0.99 to buy Paperback 4.99 1 New from 4.99 , Paperback [17] Some legal experts said it would have been difficult to hold a football club responsible for something that occurred away from its ground and involved people who did not attend the match. Redemption links and eBooks cannot be resold. : Millwall has changed a lot since the days of Harry the Dog, Bobby the Wolf and the hooligan firms of the 70s . Think, as many others, the mob of the early 80s was the best. Join thought-provoking conversations, follow other Independent readers and see their replies. [12][13], On 11 March 1978 a riot broke out at The Den during an FA Cup quarter-final between Millwall and Ipswich Town, with the home team losing 61. its the millwall that do my head in, they think they really are something, 2-1 & another managerial casualty in the morning I suspect. Looks interesting, but unfortunately I can't get it to load. "Alright Smiffy, still supporting Chelse?" Got nicked after the match, when we were waiting for them, could escape by jumping in a passing bus. Everyone can go about their business and act as if nothing really happened. Brentford's goalkeeper Chic Brodie picked it up, inspected it and threw it into his goal. They became the poster-boys for terrace violence, an identity cemented to such a degree that more than three decades later Millwalls mob were the bad guys in the risible hooligan movie Green Street. This probably isnt the place to put this but WELL DONE LE ARSE FOR BEATING SPUDS AND,,,, ERM,,,,,ARRANGING THEIR HORDINGS TO SUIT THE SPITE HART LANE SCENE Arsenal make me laugh, they had a crowd of 4,000 for s night match against Leeds in the old first division in 1966, piss poor for a top flight game. I know i am sounding like an old geezer (but i suppose i am sort of getting there now!!) Borata had an incredible game that night. Learn more. Jay Allan, I enjoyed his book, about 25 years ago! It's easy! Please try again. Paste as plain text instead, The stadium announcer warned that the game would be abandoned if there were any more disturbances from the crowd, prompting some Millwall fans to invade the pitch in an unsuccessful attempt to get the game abandoned. He came down for a visit and brought a mate who called himself 'Mac the knife' (LOL). The BBC set the tone early when the narrator suggested: Millwall is more than a football club, its a way of life. Had to get stuck in that day and Chelsea . WHU77 8:55 Sun Mar . A large proportion of the 2,000 fans in The Den on Saturday expressed their outrage when the teams took the knee before the game against Derby County. After viewing product detail pages, look here to find an easy way to navigate back to pages you are interested in. Replies (0) Options Top. After the fun and games on the pitch after the game we decide to make our own way back to the station, Where we had a couple of run in with a few of their boys in the end we jump on a bus back to the Station, Under DH and B there was a good gang of chelsea to roam the country in a viking thrilling way..Ive thought about this again and i have to have a slight preference for SH and the edge that was brought to the table..We must remember though that folk in charge of proceedings couldnt have achieved all that was done without the brave warriors that were ( yes ive chosen my words correctly) surrounding all scenarios. [35][36], In April 2013, Millwall met Wigan Athletic in a semi-final of the FA Cup. The fights today are rarely newsworthy unless its a big one, or a fan gets seriously hurt and even then most of this happens in Europe. "Trumpton FC's hooligans _____ "Return to the land of your fathers; blood calls to blood." . By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use. Back to top. You can change your choices at any time by visiting Cookie Preferences, as described in the Cookie Notice. Instead the BBC portrayed hooliganism as being deeply rooted in Millwall, and attempted to link them to the far-right political party National Front. Im pretty sure this documentary was the basis for the film the firm with Gary Oldman. , Text-to-Speech You are not welcome here. Instead it pandered and pretended. [12] When Millwall's unbeaten home record of 59 games came to an end against Plymouth Argyle in 1967, the windows of the away team's coach were smashed. #7. Soulboy JavaScript is disabled. Harry the Dog is a legend amongst British football hooligans. You're Going Home in a F*****g Ambulance: Hooligan Wars - The Inside Story, NIGHTMARE: The Incredible Story of Britain's Most Prolific Football Hooligan. The board then give in sack the boring manager and then appoint the fans favourite up-coming Scottish manger with an attacking style of play. Many were rivals working for opposing companies and vying for the same business. . Reply. If you agree, well also use cookies to complement your shopping experience across the Amazon stores as described in our Cookie Notice. Using your mobile phone camera - scan the code below and download the Kindle app. Paphitis later introduced a membership scheme whereby only fans who would be prepared to join and carry membership cards would be allowed into The Den. , Dimensions this one worked as a school caretaker or something like that. It was different, wild and looking back, somewhat unreal at times. Sign up for a new account in our community. All of us who lived out those days will, I am sure, never forget them. : The ground not relisting how far it was from the town. : To see our price, add these items to your basket. [22], The Football Association later handed Millwall three charges and West Ham four. Both those Millwall games Chelsea were hugely impressive, but there are other one offs that were similar. Thanks for posting that link. , File size Harry the Dog: The Story of a Football Hooligan Legend, and Millwalls F-Troop Top Boy. 'Tiny' aka Ian Garwood was a Millwall fan since the late 60s. As for Stamford Bridge, spent most of my time on the North Stand in the mid to late 70's, moving into the old Gate 13 in the East Stand in the early 80's until Uncle Ken kicked us out of there after the Sunderland semi-final 'fireworks'! [15], In May 2002, hundreds of hooligans attaching themselves to Millwall were involved in disorder around the ground, after the team lost a play-off game to Birmingham City. How's the head lol. Posted by chalmetteowl on 1/29/21 at 8:01 pm to S. quote: How did we miss Cardiff hiring Mick? Just read the book about the policeman who infiltrated Milllwall and then more or less became one of them. , Print length played on my head for a few seconds!. Sorry, there was a problem loading this page. Memory might be playing tricks on me but our mob was larger than the 50 or so that day. In sloppy joes with chicken gumbo soup and brown sugar; darrell williams leidos . Clearly a psychopath, Bobby did not hesitate to punch, kick, headbutt or shoot anybody who got in his way. [{"displayPrice":"4.99","priceAmount":4.99,"currencySymbol":"","integerValue":"4","decimalSeparator":". North Stand Chat: the biggest and best Brighton & Hove Albion independent fan site - get involved!. The BBC approached a number of teams and only Millwall agreed to become involved in the filming. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Dag. geezer with sun glasses?? This aroused considerable excitement among the spectators. I am 60 next year and i try to explain to my grandson (also Chelsea) what it was like back in the day,but you had to be there.CBL was definately one of the moodiest of places i visited. Learn more. It also analyzed reviews to verify trustworthiness. Start your Independent Premium subscription today. Posted February 10, 2015. In the same year, a referee was attacked and the FA ordered the club to erect fences around The Den's terracing. Gary Johnson pinched our goal. I was still at school and was the only one of mates who went that day, same as to spuds away a couple of years earlier in a night game where a small group of us went inyo the park lane end (i stayed in there the whole game). : , Language In the late 70s/early 80s there was a mini-series about notable, for one reason or another, football clubs. The booing on Saturday was despicable, the response last night appalling. Brief content visible, double tap to read full content. Upload or insert images from URL. Members. Poor me. They the shadowy enemies of Millwall are lining up to take relish in the embarrassment caused by explicit racist behaviour. And don't forget cambridge away first game of the season when the general was in all the newspapers what a mob that plus pop robson scoring the winner.on his debut and brighton in the cup bank holiday weekend the rows started on the friday night , and finished with us all over the pitch and the old bill running everywhere, That was the norm Steve remember the northbrook with Millwall and aving cass pennant on the door never helped did it now i would say 1970s right up to the 80s was the best until it become trendy to be a chelseaa thug. If I remember correctly the supporters coach broke down on the M4 when it was heading to Bristol Rovers. If some northern ponce has a go at me I'll put a fucking glass in his 'ed. Read instantly on your browser with Kindle for Web. It was a different world back then. Copyright Wanderersways.com 1999-2022 : Claims that the antipathy towards the kneeling players is a reaction to the cultural Marxism that has been associated with a section of the Black Lives Matter movement is as laughable as the myths of immigrants pouring into the country to gorge on the benefits system. Mad times ( but great memories!). Please try again. : harry the dog millwall hooligan dead. And don't forget cambridge away first game of the season when the general was in all the newspapers what a mob that plus pop robson scoring the winner.on his debut and brighton in the cup bank holiday weekend the rows started on the friday night , and finished with us all over the pitch and the old bill running everywhere, I remember the Brighton game I got down there early on the Saturday and all the talk was, I can remember a few of us having a couple of drink in the town pub before hand and then walk to. Was he the one with the longish frizzy hair who steamed into some home end on his own does anyone know? It was 2 February 1974. Megson wasn't steady though was he, he was taking us straight down, Negative, boring and shit as well as alienating half the players and three quarters if the fan base is quite something else, It appears fashionable for folk to try to rewrite history though. , Publisher Millwall in the Cup. JavaScript is disabled. We dont share your credit card details with third-party sellers, and we dont sell your information to others. On 6 November 1965 Millwall beat west London club Brentford 2-1 away at Griffin Park and during the game a hand grenade was thrown onto the pitch from the Millwall end. Bwahaaa now that was funnyshame, some of the F-Troop used to drink in my Aunt's pub in Mile End. There was fighting inside and outside the ground during the game between both sets of supporters, with one Millwall fan sustaining a broken jaw. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. Came down on the train!. Log into your account. Both sets of supporters were primarily made up of dockers, who lived and worked in the same locality in east and south London. There were conflicting reports in the media as to whether missiles were initially thrown by Hull supporters following chanting and jeering by Millwall fans at Jimmy Bullard (an ex-West Ham player) just prior to the fixture. You are using an out of date browser. : October 31, 2014 in Chelsea FC Vintage. jessica parker journalist father. The glory comes not from the team but from the reputation of its supporters.. Please refresh the page or navigate to another page on the site to be automatically logged inPlease refresh your browser to be logged in. Well-Known Member Mar 30, 2020 #22 mdingwall said: We had a thread about the Millwall docu on the old Footymad messageboard - Harry the Dog drunk himself to death, Billy Plummer moves to a town on the coast and committed suicide just before his daughters wedding, Bobby the Wolf (of "dirty Northern ponce" fame) is still with us and attending games. The North Stand boys in the mid/late 70's, Gate 17 had the Bridge a reputation but it is fair to say our general support in numbers never met our away in terms of ratio to the opposition. Bobby SVARC Bobby the Wolf - F-Troop. The News of the World, however, bore the headline: "Millwall Thugs Deck Linesman With Concrete". Reviewed in the United Kingdom on February 14, 2022. Being 56 years of age now, I remember CBL also as the scariest place to be (or not to be) in the 80s. Whats more, Bobby did not allow his underworld activities for the infamous crime boss Percy Boston to distract him from those activities and from his life as a hooligan in general. As leader of West Ham United's hooligan firm, the Intercity Firm (ICF), Bobby the Wolf struck fear into all who knew him. Do you believe that this item violates a copyright? Also, early kick-off times arranged by the police often result in only a few hundred fans making the trip. I met him once. We had a thread about the Millwall docu on the old Footymad messageboard - Harry the Dog drunk himself to death, Billy Plummer moves to a town on the coast and committed suicide just before his daughters wedding, Bobby the Wolf (of dirty Northern ponce fame) is still with us and attending games. Powered by Invision Community. 21 Toughest British Football Hooligan Firms Ever!! The pretence that the issue had gone away was maintained. I was only fortunate to get to as many home games as I could and some away games in and around London as I was living in Reading and although the cost of getting in the ground wasn't high, the cost of the train fare etc and a 'fun' day out ate into the wage packet, especially as a young apprentice..anyway my point is that as I sit here 40+ years later I sometimes reflect when I read posts like yours; Was this the era that had one of the biggest impacts on the history of footballbecause of the fights and the way the old grounds were designed; fans standing on the terraces leaning against the railings and being pushed forward from the back etc, the feeling of the warm piss of the nutter behind you running down your leg, caused many significant changes in terms of safety and security, none of those things entered our heads then, let alone the owners. There was no booing. They have always represented a rough, docklands ethos and supporters glory in their hard-man reputation. Managed to get out of this place, but it was scary there and no Old Bill to be seen for miles. The Shed End Forum relies on revenue to pay for hosting and upgrades. Far better organisation and sheer numbers took many teams by surprise. It is true..the past is a different country! The scheme introduced by Paphitis now only applies to perceived high-risk away games. Want to bookmark your favourite articles and stories to read or reference later? Very hairy outside that night. [26], In January 2009, hundreds of Millwall fans perceived as "high risk" individuals gained access to an FA Cup fourth-round match away at Hull City. [14] The penalty that Millwall faced was perhaps that the club's name was now "synonymous with everything that was bad in football and society". , Screen Reader Three Millwall fans received three-month prison sentences and six-year banning orders. Instead, the letter suggested that Millwall and their fans are victims. Full content visible, double tap to read brief content. Nov 10, 2009. You're listening to a sample of the Audible audio edition. We didnt go behind the goal we were in fact on the side terrace . 13. Using your mobile phone camera - scan the code below and download the Kindle app. Sounds like a nice scarf. However, they were eliminated in the playoff semi-finals by Derby County, and the game at the New Den had to be halted twice due to pitch invasions by Millwall hooligans. The irony is that, like last nights letter, the documentary was a self-inflicted wound. Only racists want Millwall to fail in the fight against racism. Millwall had a fearsome mob in those days lead by a bloke who went by the name of Bomber. We played Millwall shortly after the documentry was aired and one of my mates said the curly haired lad with glasses was in the away end at Leicester and they had a bit of a chat through the fence . Millwall are a team with a relatively small fanbase but their significance in the English game is massive. ginger bob millwall f troop ginger bob millwall f troop. He. Three Millwall keepers in one match. Does this item contain inappropriate content? Knew most of them as a few of them drank in my local which was called the Squire in them days the lad with the big hair and glasses was Billy Piummer young lad was Gary Roberts usually got on with them well except of course around September 1976 when there was a couple of rows between our pub the Saxon which was Chels and the Squire I remember one Sunday night Little Tommy from Paddington (RIP) and a few others came over for a drink the Millwall lot came up from the squire and ran most of our mob up the road to Lower Sydenham station I got done pretty bad with a glass luckily I had one of the thick wrap round cardigans on which took most of it as they tried to do me in the back funny enough was drinking with them a couple of weeks later as if nothing had happened funny old game football eh!!
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